Comments on: The Audio Thieves - Pray Like Aretha Franklin http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/ the Scritti Politti source Fri, 16 May 2008 19:00:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Eddy W@tfor http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-4265 Eddy W@tfor Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:49:36 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-4265 Dans le genre, on a vu pire, la musique n'est pas plattement machinale, et la voix de Green Gartside sauve la mise. Mais alors le clip fashion est vraiment creux comme un carton à lessive... Ce clip est un vrai travail de Néo-Fumiste. Technicité et couleurs acidulées en guise de cache-misère. Je précise déjà que je n'ai aucune forme de vénération pour l'imagerie pieuse, là n'est pas le problème. Par contre j'ai bien peu de considération pour l'imagerie creuse. Ironiser sur les signes religieux lorsque l'on n'a que son vide intérieur à vendre(!) à la place, ça n'a rien d'héroïque; ce n'est même pas "rock'n'roll. Si l'on retire de ce clip l'aura intrinsèque des symboles religieux, que reste-t-il? Rien, le néant, les néons un peu perdus, une boule disco à la rigueur, et la seule chose qui captive un peu (hormis l'effet facile et pavlovien d'un porte-jartelle) la seule chose qui captive un peu c'est précisément la force intérieure de ces figures religieuses qu'on prétend justement "dépasser". Le reste n'a pas d'épaisseur. Hors le clip n'est pas fichu de faire plus que de littéralement squatter ces figures, car il n'est pas fichu d'élaborer un "propre" univers digne de ce nom: fumisterie fashion! Entre une religieuse un peu bigote et une night-clubeuse sans âme, ma préférence va pour la première. Ce clip m'a un brin gonflé, et ma réaction va en gonfler d'autres, comme quoi rien ne se perd, tout se transforme ou se transmet. Mais ici, ne parlons surtout pas de création. Dans le genre, on a vu pire, la musique n’est pas plattement machinale, et la voix de Green Gartside sauve la mise. Mais alors le clip fashion est vraiment creux comme un carton à lessive…

Ce clip est un vrai travail de Néo-Fumiste. Technicité et couleurs acidulées en guise de cache-misère. Je précise déjà que je n’ai aucune forme de vénération pour l’imagerie pieuse, là n’est pas le problème. Par contre j’ai bien peu de considération pour l’imagerie creuse. Ironiser sur les signes religieux lorsque l’on n’a que son vide intérieur à vendre(!) à la place, ça n’a rien d’héroïque; ce n’est même pas “rock’n'roll.
Si l’on retire de ce clip l’aura intrinsèque des symboles religieux, que reste-t-il? Rien, le néant, les néons un peu perdus, une boule disco à la rigueur, et la seule chose qui captive un peu (hormis l’effet facile et pavlovien d’un porte-jartelle) la seule chose qui captive un peu c’est précisément la force intérieure de ces figures religieuses qu’on prétend justement “dépasser”. Le reste n’a pas d’épaisseur. Hors le clip n’est pas fichu de faire plus que de littéralement squatter ces figures, car il n’est pas fichu d’élaborer un “propre” univers digne de ce nom: fumisterie fashion!

Entre une religieuse un peu bigote et une night-clubeuse sans âme, ma préférence va pour la première. Ce clip m’a un brin gonflé, et ma réaction va en gonfler d’autres, comme quoi rien ne se perd, tout se transforme ou se transmet. Mais ici, ne parlons surtout pas de création.

]]> By: H http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1734 H Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:16:15 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1734 My sincerist apologies.. I totally embrace the gay community and love many within it.. I was just having a bad day I guess.. Nevertheless, that said.. .. The vox on the mp3 listing have been severely tampered with and the end result is what you see on the video! Trust me.. I worked on this.. May you all live gay and prosper! X My sincerist apologies..

I totally embrace the gay community and love many within it.. I was just having a bad day I guess..

Nevertheless, that said.. ..

The vox on the mp3 listing have been severely tampered with and the end result is what you see on the video!

Trust me.. I worked on this..

May you all live gay and prosper!

X

]]> By: nemorino http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1708 nemorino Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:34:24 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1708 Hey HDog - why the gratuitous insults? Seems a funny way to win friends and influence people on the fan website of the group whose tune you've sampled/arranged/whatever. The subtleties of your marketing strategy evidently elude me but perhaps that's because I'm a gay moron without your superior music production skills. "Wannabe 80s sequence children"? Oooh, you know how to hurt a boy. Peace & love. Hey HDog - why the gratuitous insults? Seems a funny way to win friends and influence people on the fan website of the group whose tune you’ve sampled/arranged/whatever. The subtleties of your marketing strategy evidently elude me but perhaps that’s because I’m a gay moron without your superior music production skills.

“Wannabe 80s sequence children”? Oooh, you know how to hurt a boy. Peace & love.

]]> By: Ernst http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1703 Ernst Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:27:31 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1703 The voice in the posted video is Green's voice. The voice on the posted mp3 should only be used to scare away the crows. HDog what kinda artist are you if you can't stand any critisism ? Get me some duct tape please ! The voice in the posted video is Green’s voice. The voice on the posted mp3 should only be used to scare away the crows. HDog what kinda artist are you if you can’t stand any critisism ? Get me some duct tape please !

]]> By: Gav http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1699 Gav Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:36:36 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1699 Christ, now it REALLY sounds bad. As Richard said, most of the comments were made re: the Youtube posting you muppet. Christ, now it REALLY sounds bad. As Richard said, most of the comments were made re: the Youtube posting you muppet.

]]> By: Marco Raaphorst http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1694 Marco Raaphorst Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:10:08 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1694 Haven't found a spot in the mp3-file where 'Aretha Franklin' sounds the same. The rest sounds like the voice used in the video. It's confusing because a synth is playing in sync with the vocals and there's a lot of effects used. All in one: I think the 'fake' vocals were used :) Haven’t found a spot in the mp3-file where ‘Aretha Franklin’ sounds the same. The rest sounds like the voice used in the video. It’s confusing because a synth is playing in sync with the vocals and there’s a lot of effects used.

All in one: I think the ‘fake’ vocals were used :)

]]> By: Richard W http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1691 Richard W Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:01:37 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1691 That's painful to listen to - his voice sounds like a cross between Savage Garden and Peter Andre. Have you actually heard what was posted here? Your pal isn't singing on it, cloth ears. It's not our fault if the wrong video (with Green's vocals) was posted on youtube. Actually I think it's OK in an utterly formulaic 2001 sort of way. That’s painful to listen to - his voice sounds like a cross between Savage Garden and Peter Andre. Have you actually heard what was posted here? Your pal isn’t singing on it, cloth ears. It’s not our fault if the wrong video (with Green’s vocals) was posted on youtube. Actually I think it’s OK in an utterly formulaic 2001 sort of way.

]]> By: HDog http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1687 HDog Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:04:07 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1687 Alright, listen here fags and wannabe 80's sequence children... This is NOT Green's voice u unimaginative know nothing about music and production technology idiots! Here are the vocals dry and without pampering... www.ispyrecords.com/newmusic/TheAudioThieves/Parts/MainVox.mp3 Why is the world so full of morons like you people???? Nighty nite now... H Alright, listen here fags and wannabe 80’s sequence children…

This is NOT Green’s voice u unimaginative know nothing about music and production technology idiots! Here are the vocals dry and without pampering…

www.ispyrecords.com/newmusic/TheAudioThieves/Parts/MainVox.mp3

Why is the world so full of morons like you people????

Nighty nite now…

H

]]> By: nemorino http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1657 nemorino Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:37:19 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1657 Well, it's self-evidently the only bit they could sample without incoprporating any beat accompaniment - it's just the a capella intro lifted from the single. Total rubbish of course - wholly unimiaginatice as Gav comments elsewhere above (though I've heard worse - that mashup of all the 'Cupid' singles is a nightmare beyond redemption). But (...and it's a small but...) the old gay raver in me did rather enjoy the VERRRRY gay disco ascending sequence from Bm7>Csharp m7>F sharp m over Green's hook line - plus the great bassline like on those late 70s/early 80s SOLAR Records (Shalamar/The Whispers etc). We're not fooled by the ludicrous video - I've rarely heard a gayer record. A shining moment for all concerned. Well, it’s self-evidently the only bit they could sample without incoprporating any beat accompaniment - it’s just the a capella intro lifted from the single.

Total rubbish of course - wholly unimiaginatice as Gav comments elsewhere above (though I’ve heard worse - that mashup of all the ‘Cupid’ singles is a nightmare beyond redemption). But (…and it’s a small but…) the old gay raver in me did rather enjoy the VERRRRY gay disco ascending sequence from Bm7>Csharp m7>F sharp m over Green’s hook line - plus the great bassline like on those late 70s/early 80s SOLAR Records (Shalamar/The Whispers etc). We’re not fooled by the ludicrous video - I’ve rarely heard a gayer record.

A shining moment for all concerned.

]]> By: Gav http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1638 Gav Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:23:09 +0000 http://bibbly-o-tek.com/2006/11/07/the-audio-thieves-pray-like-aretha-franklin/#comment-1638 .....'a mate of ours'.....err..right. Like a lot of posters on this site, I've listened to this track on and off for 20 years and I'm pretty sure I can tell the difference between GG and your mate from the karaoke club... Still, well done - you've managed to be woefully unimaginative in both your recording and your excuse for it... Cheers! …..’a mate of ours’…..err..right. Like a lot of posters on this site, I’ve listened to this track on and off for 20 years and I’m pretty sure I can tell the difference between GG and your mate from the karaoke club…

Still, well done - you’ve managed to be woefully unimaginative in both your recording and your excuse for it…

Cheers!

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